India votes in favor of Goldstone report

[shravan]

India votes in favor of Goldstone report

6 Nov 2009,

UNITED NATIONS: India has voted in favour of a UN resolution endorsing the Goldstone report that requires Israel and Palestine to investigate war crimes in the Gaza Strip, after initially expressing reservations about it.

Expressing support for the resolution, Indian Deputy Envoy to the United Nations, Manjeev Singh Puri told news agency, "Our commitment to the Palestinian cause is complete."

Puri, however, noted that India could not make an "unqualified endorsement". "We do not approve of the referral to the Security Council and the ICC," he said.

The 192-member world body approved the resolution by a vote of 114-18, with 44 abstentions and 16 countries not voting.

India had maintained that the report should have addressed its recommendations solely to the Human Rights Council in Geneva and not to other UN institutions, including the Security Council.

The main recommendation of the report is for the Security Council to require Israel and Palestinian authority to report within six months on domestic prosecutions it carries.

If the two governments fail in this task, the UNSC should refer the matter to the prosecutor of International Criminal Court (ICC), says the report.

While supporting independent investigations by both sides, Puri said "our vote should not be construed as endorsing referrals to the International Criminal Court and United Nations Security Council."

Prepared by the UN Fact Finding Mission, headed by South African judge Richard Goldstone, the report accuses both Hamas and Israeli forces of war crimes in the Gaza strip from December, 2008 to January this year.

The fate of the resolution in the Security Council is uncertain with the US, which had previously called the report "one-sided" and "biased", voting against it. Among the other four permanent members China voted 'yes' while the UK, France and Russia abstained from voting.

Earlier, Israel had voiced against the report which it termed as one "conceived in hate and executed in sin".

"The report before you was conceived in hate and executed in sin. From its inception in a one-sided mandate, the Gaza fact-finding mission was a politicised body with predetermined conclusions." Israel's envoy to the UN, Gabriela Shalev had said at the General Assembly.

India votes in favour of Goldstone report- Politics/Nation-News-The Economic Times

[GratefulFred]

Only 18 nations of this world have a soul. The rest have been bought or are just dang nasty evil.

India's owned.

[curlyg]

It is not really surprising given that India has been a consistent supporter of the Palestinians, but it's disappointing nonetheless.

[takeo]

All the nations which don't accept this report lack the moral autority to condamn and criticise other nations (Sudan, Myanmar, Russia, etc.) concerning human rights. That's obviously clear now to anyone. India is not a majoritarian muslim country, but neither has it a strong pro-Israel lobby. International law and human rights can be flawed as long as one has the right friends or one is strona superpower, that's the message from all this. (not only in this case by the way)

[pagan]

Indian sympathy for the Palestinian cause is just a facade.Why should we support a cause out of PC which has no returns.Yasser Arafat never supported us on Kashmir.Israel would have already been informed about the vote so its no big deal.
India's vote is not critical for Israel. But I think if BJP was in power they we would not have voted 'yes'....Sorry

[shravan]

Originally Posted by pagan

Indian sympathy for the Palestinian cause is just a facade.Why should we support a cause out of PC which has no returns.Yasser Arafat never supported us on Kashmir.Israel would have already been informed about the vote so its no big deal.
India's vote is not critical for Israel. But I think if BJP was in power they we would not have voted 'yes'....Sorry

BJP would also have voted yes and i hope that Indians (Civilians) will not start poking their nose in our Foreign Policy like our neighbors do. And as you said - Israel was already informed.

Are you a member of def.pk ?

[Mil]

By the way ... what happened? Every Indian I work with, and I work with more Indians then most Indians work with, voted for BJP!!!! You listen to an Indian talk politics and the entire Muslim thing.... you think you are a Jew on steroids from Texas *100. I recently spent a week in Chinnai.... damn.... everyone is so freakingn passionate of what should happen and why...

[pagan]

Originally Posted by shravan

BJP would also have voted yes and i hope that Indians (Civilians) will not start poking their nose in our Foreign Policy like our neighbors do. And as you said - Israel was already informed.

Are you a member of def.pk ?

I was.For a short time....Then they banned me

Are you the same sharavan in def.pk ?

My last post was copied from someone in def.pk. I do read that forum for fun. I found the argument good so pasted it here.

[shravan]

Originally Posted by pagan

Are you the same sharavan in de.pk ?

My name is SHRAVAN.

My my last post was copied from someone in de.pk. I do read it for fun. I found the argument good so pasted it here.

I know that. So i asked the question....

[pagan]

Originally Posted by shravan

My name is SHRAVAN.



I know that. So i asked the question....

OK.....Next time I will get it right.

[Mil]

Posted by Takeo:

All the nations which don't accept this report lack the moral autority to condamn and criticise other nations (Sudan, Myanmar, Russia, etc.) concerning human rights. That's obviously clear now to anyone. India is not a majoritarian muslim country, but neither has it a strong pro-Israel lobby. International law and human rights can be flawed as long as one has the right friends or one is strona superpower, that's the message from all this. (not only in this case by the way)

Tens of thousands of ethnic Georgians were ethnically cleansed from South Ossetia over a year ago by the Russian army..... that's a crime against humanity. What do you thinK should happen?

[Mediocrates]

Why nothing. Russia is always right, Jews are always evil. Didn't you get the memo?

[takeo]

Originally Posted by Mil

By the way ... what happened? Every Indian I work with, and I work with more Indians then most Indians work with, voted for BJP!!!! You listen to an Indian talk politics and the entire Muslim thing.... you think you are a Jew on steroids from Texas *100. I recently spent a week in Chinnai.... damn.... everyone is so freakingn passionate of what should happen and why...

Hindu extremists are as dangerous as muslim extremists (and all religious extremists such as christian majority in the US or Shas in Israel). Only a few months ago they burned christians alife because they were trying to convertt Hindu's. And that was supported by some Indian members of this forum. Elections show that most Indians support the current government, not BJP. What's right for a multireligious and multicultural country as India is a government which doesn't discriminate people based on their religious background. That's what sets India apart from for example Pakistan or Bangladesh, and also the reason why India is more succesful than these countries.

[shravan]

Originally Posted by takeo

Hindu extremists are as dangerous as muslim extremists

Prove it. Do Hindus believe in Capturing the world or SPREADING THE LIGHT ?

Only a few months ago they burned christians alife because they were trying to convict Hindu's. And that was supported by some Indian members of this forum.

If Christians were converting Hindus using illegal Methods or if Christians were killing other HIndus i would support the Killing of Christians.

[takeo]

Originally Posted by Mil

Posted by Takeo:

All the nations which don't accept this report lack the moral autority to condamn and criticise other nations (Sudan, Myanmar, Russia, etc.) concerning human rights. That's obviously clear now to anyone. India is not a majoritarian muslim country, but neither has it a strong pro-Israel lobby. International law and human rights can be flawed as long as one has the right friends or one is strona superpower, that's the message from all this. (not only in this case by the way)

Tens of thousands of ethnic Georgians were ethnically cleansed from South Ossetia over a year ago by the Russian army..... that's a crime against humanity. What do you thinK should happen?

What should happen in an ideal world is Ossetian militia to be prosecuted for ethnic cleansing, as well as Georgia for shelling civilians in Thinkvali and other places. However, when I visited South Ossetia in 2003 there were still many Georgians living there peacefully, according to reports there are still Georgians, but some have fled/were forced to flee. In this same ideal world all the people ethnically cleansed from Israel in 1948 should be allowed to return, and Israel should be prosecuted for warcrimes in Gaza, Lebanon, the US for warcrimes in Iraq, NATO for warcrimes in Yugoslavia, Syria for what happened in the 70's, etc.
Of course in this less than perfect world only leaders from powerless countries without powerfull friends get prosecuted (when it's politically convenient for the world powers to do so).