12 dead at Ft. Hood, TX

[Madeline]

Originally Posted by Kachah

Wow! I am truly humbled.
Let me just put it stright. You are proud that your co-religionists did not support a mass-murderer (though I still have some reservations, but for argument's sake - assume so).
Are you for real?

Some have indeed spoken up against this massacre, and should be praised...andak being among them.
These are not the people/Muslims I worry about. I worry about those who cheer for him/Hasan.
I am just as appalled, just to be fair, hearing and reading about those who cheered for the man who killed Dr. Tiller ( late term abortion Dr.)
Extremes do exist on both sides, and we can't have a honest argument if we don't recognize this.
I also know that radicals are more prevalent in Islam. Where others have 'evolved' as a whole, Islam still needs to come into the 21st Century.

[andak01]

Originally Posted by Kachah

Wow! I am truly humbled.
Let me just put it stright. You are proud that your co-religionists did not support a mass-murderer (though I still have some reservations, but for argument's sake - assume so).
Are you for real?

Yeah for real, I'm not going to let people go around as they are doing and pretend that Muslim Americans do support what they don't. This guy couldn't find a Muslim defense lawyer in America to defend him. CAIR, which specializes in legal defense of Muslims has condemned him. So, as is always the case, a lot of people are going around stating that the Muslims are being silent and inactive and it simply isn't true. Muslims have been both vocal and active.

Now I'm pretty sure you could find an imam in western Pakistan or from that area that still supports this idiot. But they are getting scarcer and scarcer.

Back to the Onion article. It is an accurate reflection of Muslim sentiment even though it is a parody.

[Kachah]

Originally Posted by andak01

Back to the Onion article. It is an accurate reflection of Muslim sentiment even though it is a parody.

No, Andak. It's an accurate reflection of our PERCEPTION of what moslem sentiment should be. Whether these two are the same I am not so sure.
I have seen people dancing of joy on Sep 11... guess who they were. I've seen the crowd cheering an Arab showing his hands soaked in blood after lynching two Israeli policemen who got lost out in the West Bank somewhere. There were no non-moslem in that crowd, Andak. You will probably claim that they were "bad" moslems - yet they were moslems and en masse. Prove me wrong if you can.
Not supporting a mass-murderer is not a matter of some form of gallantry or noble behaviour. People don't get brownie points for not supporting killers, it's what's naturally expected from human beings. You got it all wrong.